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MisterWives’ Mandy Lee and Etienne Bowler focus on their band’s breathtaking fourth album ‘Nosebleeds’ and the significance of feeling all the sentiments and giving your self grace.
Stream: ‘Nosebleeds’ – MisterWives
We’re taught that happiness and pleasure are good and anger, disappointment and melancholy are dangerous. I feel it’s simply the complete spectrum of what our expertise is and it’s about reclaiming that versus feeling like one is nice and one is dangerous. They’re all regular, pure responses to life.
When I requested MisterWives what led to the creation of Nosebleeds, with its distinct fiery sound and breathtakingly uncooked lyrics, they earnestly responded, “It was simply how we had been feeling.”
It appears so easy, however the reply to that query is precisely what makes this band so particular, and extra particularly, this album. Launched on July 14 by way of Photograph End Data / Resilient Little Data, Nosebleeds sees MisterWives faucet into one thing completely new, whereas additionally pulling extra from their roots than we’ve heard in albums previous.
Following 2020’s acclaimed LP SUPERBLOOM – which Atwood Journal referred to as “explosive supply of funk, rock, pop, and soul that may break your coronary heart and put it again collectively once more” – Nosebleeds is rock & roll, infectious, intricate, delicate, and exquisite. It’s as therapeutic as it’s entertaining.
I’m not okay, however I’m happy with that. It’s simply how life goes. I really feel like we have to give ourselves extra grace in direction of not having to have all of it collectively and never having to all the time discover the expansion – it’s not sustainable or real looking. It’s necessary to really feel at peace with life and discover consolation within the discomfort.
Atwood Journal sat down with MisterWives’ lead singer Mandy Lee and drummer/producer Etienne Bowler for a deep dive into Nosebleeds and the way the band created this uncooked, lovely report. They clarify with such readability and freedom that Nosebleeds was them letting go of all trade requirements and targets, and easily creating one thing that felt good and proper to them.
By doing simply that, they managed to create an album that’s getting constant radio play in addition to playlisting throughout the board. The music that usually connects most is music that’s the most genuine and sincere, and Nosebleeds is likely one of the most refreshingly sincere albums we’ve heard in a very long time.
Take pleasure in our dialog with MisterWives on all issues Nosebleeds and the significance of feeling all the sentiments and giving your self grace.
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A CONVERSATION WITH MISTERWIVES
Atwood Journal: Congratulations on the album! It’s so unbelievable. There are a couple of very thrilling issues with the Nosebleeds launch. First, that is the primary album you’ve launched below Resilient Little Data, and second, you’ve been in a position to get pleasure from this launch out on this planet with the followers whereas SUPERBLOOM was a deep COVID launch. How has all of it been?
Mandy Lee: Thanks! Oh my god it has been essentially the most refreshing expertise – attending to do all of the stuff with actual folks. I’ve had the most important smile on my face attending to do these album launch reveals and signings. We did a popup at a donut store the place they made a Nosebleeds donut – all of the enjoyable issues the place you get to have fun with folks and join in individual. I’m not a cellphone girlie in any respect so this has been my prime time.
All the things we’re doing now – It’s all of the stuff that reminds you why you do it. There may be a lot exhausting work that goes into attending to the ultimate launch. It’s such an emotional rollercoaster after which when it comes out and also you get to truly play a present and listen to folks singing the songs again with you. It’s what all the time retains us going.
Etienne Bowler: With SUPERBLOOM too, once we lastly bought to tour it – it felt like we had been enjoying outdated songs. Now, we get to go on tour proper after Nosebleeds comes out. We’re so excited to program the set and play the songs. All of it feels model new and thrilling.
Completely. The intimate reveals you guys have been enjoying appear so nice.
Mandy: Thanks! They usually’re acoustic! I’m like if that is this a lot enjoyable acoustic I can not watch for what a correct present goes to be. The power was so excessive and everybody was singing the whole lot so loud. And this was us with a stripped down efficiency. We’re very excited for the autumn.
Etienne: We would must do an acoustic tour!
Do it! So, I need to dive into a couple of songs particularly, however first I need to speak concerning the total sound of the album. It has such a Rock and Roll really feel, but it surely’s nonetheless MisterWives. It’s elevated and totally different and distinct. I adore it a lot. Interested by what led to the general sound of the report. The place was the departure from songs like “Simple” and “Wrongside” into Nosebleeds?
Mandy: The departure was the feelings. (all of us snort)
There was no acutely aware determination of going darker or including extra distorted guitars or something like that. It was simply actually staying true to how I felt and never doing the basic MisterWives factor of sugar coating actually exhausting instances. We nonetheless love that for us generally, you want it to get by means of, however I simply felt like doing that for this report was a disservice to the place I used to be. I felt very uncooked and open, and I needed the music to replicate the place I used to be, relatively than making an attempt to race in direction of the silver lining of the whole lot being packaged fairly and cleaned up good for folks to digest.
That’s what I really like about this album – it provides you permission to be offended.
Mandy: Sure, the entire feelings are okay. We’re taught that happiness and pleasure are good and anger, disappointment and melancholy are dangerous. I feel it’s simply the complete spectrum of what our expertise is and it’s about reclaiming that versus feeling like one is nice and one is dangerous. They’re all regular, pure responses to life.
Etienne: Yeah, they each must exist. And for those who say you’re all the time comfortable you’re mendacity to your self as a result of you’ll be able to’t have one with out the opposite. Like Mandy is saying, “Superbloom” and “Resolve to be comfortable” are the afterthoughts of going by means of one thing exhausting, however then being okay. Nosebleeds is what’s occurring while you’re in it. Musically, it wasn’t a call of any sort of “let’s do that, let’s do this” the manufacturing and the music all the time observe the lyrics in order that’s the place all of it got here from. They work collectively.
Mandy: I’ll say too, shoutout to my neighbors. There’s a band that rehearses each Saturday. They’re younger women and each Saturday they might play Rubbish, Alanis Morisette, Little question, and so forth. all these songs and bands that I grew up loving. It completely permeated into what I used to be writing and the sounds I needed. I needed it to sound extra natural and uncooked and never as polished pop as we’ve accomplished prior. I must convey them a report. I reference them in “All of the Similar” – I need to thank them for uplifting me.
*Shout out to the neighbors!*
I felt very uncooked and open, and I needed the music to replicate the place I used to be, relatively than making an attempt to race in direction of the silver lining of the whole lot being packaged fairly and cleaned up good for folks to digest.
That’s wonderful. They’d love that a lot. So, we will’t discuss Nosebleeds, the album, with out speaking concerning the success of the music “Nosebleeds.” Clearly, you made it a single, so that you knew it was one thing particular, however had been you anticipating this a lot success with it?
Mandy: Man, firstly most likely not. I did it with Dylan Bauld from Flor and Ok.flay, who I really like and are expensive, expensive buddies. I used to be in such a darkish place once we had been engaged on it. I keep in mind coming dwelling from the session and I couldn’t inform if it was good as a result of I used to be simply so uncooked. I used to be recording these vocals making an attempt to not cry so it’s wild to see the journey of it and the way a lot it advanced. It grew to become the entire spine to the report and impressed the album title. This is the reason it’s all the time good to maintain going. I virtually threw within the towel on that music after which revisited it a 12 months later and I used to be like “What the fuck was I considering! This music is wonderful!”
Etienne: Yeah, I listened to her demo and was like that is unbelievable you completely want to complete this.
Mandy: So I might say within the begin, most likely not, however then once we got here to revisit the music I knew it needed to be the one. It’s the entire crux of the report and to see what it’s accomplished proper now has simply been, truthfully, exhausting to course of. It’s been so joyous and such an enormous success for us. Radio is one thing that firstly of this report I gave up on. I let go of radio or any of the trade success goalposts. I didn’t care. I simply needed to make one thing that was true to me, that we liked and had enjoyable making. These had been the priorities. I actually keep in mind saying “I don’t care about radio – I’m good on that. I don’t want it.” And now it’s on the radio.
Etienne: While you cease on the lookout for it, you discover it. That’s the way it works.
Mandy: It was the white knuckling, ya know? While you go into issues and you’ve got all these preconceived plans of the way you need it to go after which it by no means does. This time round I realized my lesson. With SUPERBLOOM I had such massive desires that for essentially the most half bought squashed, exterior of what the followers did for it. This time round I simply needed to make one thing that felt good and was sincere. I needed to neglect about the entire targets that you simply get caught in a hamster wheel chasing as a band.
Completely. It actually comes by means of within the album that you simply did it for you. I feel that’s why it’s so nice and is resonating a lot. I need to discuss “Sideways,” which can also be beginning to achieve some traction within the playlisting world!
Etienne: Spotify likes “Sideways”!
Sure, it’s so catchy from the primary second.
Mandy: Sure! I’m a ticking, ticking time bomb.
Sure! So, inform me about this one, from the lyrics to the manufacturing it’s so nice.
Mandy: Etienne slayed the manufacturing on this one.
Etienne: Thanks! I had the chance to work off some stems from a session that Mandy began with Cal Shapiro and Louis Schoorl.
Mandy: Who I did “Rock Backside” with – this album was all working with buddies. With “Sideways” I knew it was going to be an excellent time even when we didn’t come away with a music. That instantly alleviates the strain.
Etienne: Yeah, so I bought a few of these stems and I chopped it up and reworked a pair issues. I really did it on my laptop computer in New York out of my outdated bed room. My dad and mom had been listening and so they had been like “This can be a massive music you gotta end this!” Mandy came visiting the subsequent day and we completed it collectively. We arrange a netflix hearth factor. The yuletide log factor? We arrange the hearth on the TV – we made hearth so we might make hearth.
(All of us snort.)
However no, I heard the demo and I knew we needed to end the music. It’s extremely catchy. And it has that classic MisterWives sound that was necessary to seize on the report.
Mandy: And humorous, that one too took so many turns. I really feel like for these songs – each music we exhausted all of the concepts. We went so far as we might after which we had been like okay yeah no the primary one was higher.
Etienne: There was about seven or eight days of “Sideways.”
Wow, yeah so how does that each one usually go? You begin a music and the way lengthy is the method to complete usually – or is all of it totally different?
Mandy: All of it relies upon, however I really feel like for this album specifically we had the angle of actually making an attempt to put all of the concepts down and in the event that they didn’t work we might return to the unique one, however we let ourselves at the least strive. And for “Sideways” I keep in mind I wrote a bridge after which it felt like we didn’t want it. I used to be so caught on the truth that it was such a brief music. I used to be like “It’s too brief! We’d like a bridge!” I nonetheless am one of many uncommon individuals who believes in bridges. I really feel like they’re a dying breed, but it surely simply didn’t really feel proper within the music.
After which Etienne and the drop out – we bought into it for the primary drop out. He didn’t need the drop out, however I used to be prefer it wants that epic drop out second the place we’re going to listen to the group sing it again and the music pulls on the market.
(Word to followers: be able to sing it on the drop out!)
Etienne: I really feel like we met within the center. We each had totally different concepts for what we needed to strive on this music. We tried the whole lot. We put quite a lot of days of labor into it and now I can’t unhear it this fashion. I’m glad we did it precisely how we did it.
It’s precisely appropriately.
Mandy: And then you definitely’re not left questioning if it needs to be one thing else that you simply by no means tried. We didn’t need to have that remorse so we gave ourselves permission to be as neurotic as potential on what we needed to attempt to if we couldn’t beat it – Etienne didn’t love this half.
(laughter)
Etienne: To some extent. If after 7 days you’re nonetheless making an attempt issues – It’s a 7 day coverage right here at Etienne’s recording studio.
Effectively it did repay. It’s an ideal music. Talking of the OG MisterWives sound, “Journey Across the Solar” is one I really like a lot and it does have that “basic” MisterWives really feel. I really like the guitar lick to start with and the way it begins simply with that and vocals after which sort of explodes. Inform me about this one.
Mandy: This one began with Cal too. Quite a lot of these songs had been child concepts that had been in demo phases and if it was an ear worm and it stayed caught in my head I knew we needed to see it by means of. Then Etienne would are available and assist with the manufacturing. “Journey Across the Solar” was a enjoyable one in all simply being actually playful. I really like how the music begins tender after which it’s this massive explosion of all of the band enjoying. I do that rhythmic singing, not beatboxing, however sort of me verbally singing the drum beat. I liked being actually playful with it and exhibiting the highs and lows by means of the music, which felt like what that music is. The acceptance of “one other journey across the solar, I’m nonetheless coming undone” that’s actually unhappy. It’s about rising and studying however nonetheless feeling such as you hold unraveling. It’s two steps ahead and one step again, and that’s sort of simply the method of life. It’s making peace with it not being not linear.
I keep in mind Etienne listening to that music and he stated it made him cry. The primary time he heard this one and “Vagabond” had been the one two that made him cry. And he doesn’t cry.
Etienne: I don’t cry fairly often so if I hear a music and I begin to cry it’s normally an excellent signal. Any of the demos I heard although, any likelihood that I needed to work on them, I instantly would.
It’s two steps ahead and one step again, and that’s sort of simply the method of life. It’s making peace with it not being not linear.
Sure, and that music goes with the whole lot, it’s alright to not really feel such as you’re getting higher with annually.
Mandy: You’re nonetheless rising although! On the finish of it when it says “I’m okay” – like I’m not okay, however I’m happy with that. It’s simply how life goes. I really feel like we have to give ourselves extra grace in direction of not having to have all of it collectively and never having to all the time discover the expansion – it’s not sustainable or real looking. Social media actually performs into how we predict life is meant to be vs. the way it really is. It’s necessary to really feel at peace with life and discover consolation within the discomfort, I suppose.
I really like that. I feel that’s a terrific segue into probably my favourite MisterWives lyric of the album and perhaps of all time. In “Silver Lining” while you say, “Attempt to discover silver traces, Inform everybody you’re fin , however you don’t know anybody who’s.” That’s the one which made me cry! It’s so true although; nobody is basically okay.
Mandy: If it makes you are feeling higher I cried whereas making all of the songs. However sure – and that is the silver lining. That is one other one which has an extended model.
Etienne: There was a second verse and one other spherical of refrain however we lower it.
Mandy: It felt extra like an interlude.
I would like to listen to the complete model! However I agree – It’s an ideal A-side to B-side transition.
(The pair tease that we might be able to hear an extended model of “Silver Lining” on the deluxe launch of Nosebleeds.)
The ultimate music I need to ask about is “Ultraviolet.” It’s such an exquisite word to finish the album on. It’s clearly such a uncooked and weak music. I’m curious if while you wrote this music you knew it will be the nearer or how that each one got here to be?
Mandy: At first we had been speaking about it opening the report, however that felt unsuitable. We needed to are available scorching with the craze after which work by means of all the craze to seek out this place of content material. I feel “Ultraviolet” is accepting the exhausting instances and staying tender in these exhausting moments. It’s heavy and it’s delicate and it’s studying that it’s okay that it’s each. It’s not “I’ve to remain offended at these horrible issues” or “I’ve to seek out the constructive.” I’m simply floating in-between all of the extremes, and the earlier I make peace with that, the much less resistance I’ve in my physique and thoughts of how exhausting life has been.
I really feel actually grateful – I did that one with Jason Suwito from Sir Sly and Sean Van Fleet who did a couple of songs on this report. It’s uncommon in a session the place you’ll be able to go in and never really feel the necessity to make the contrived “single”. Periods may be actually out and in and also you’re making an attempt to jot down successful in a day – you’re not going to return in and be like “Hey I need to write a music that hardly has a refrain and is only a stream of consciousness.”
Etienne: With a 30 second outro…
Mandy: Sure, a 30 second outro and is a gradual ballad. However they had been the folks to try this with. We did “Finish of my rope” with them as nicely the place there have been simply no guidelines. We had been in a position to simply make what felt proper, which speaks volumes to who they’re. I felt so comfy speaking about issues that had been actually weak.
I’ve by no means brazenly talked about being emancipated, which I do within the second verse. It’s 15 years later, nonetheless making an attempt to forgive from the place I used to be at 15 — emancipated and leaving dwelling to pursue music. It’s quite a lot of painful components of my life that I’ve all the time suppressed. While you let that stuff floor you simply discover such freedom in your existence. There isn’t any disgrace and guilt concerning the belongings you’ve gone by means of. Discovering the sunshine within the darkness.
For that music I really discovered these pictures on-line of flowers below ultraviolet mild. I saved them in my notes. They had been illuminated – it appeared prefer it was made in photoshop. All these glittering patterns and all the colours grew to become electrical. That felt like such an excellent visible that I needed to place right into a music. Solely in full darkness might you see all this mild. It felt like quite a lot of what my expertise is of how a lot good I’ve discovered by means of the actually darkish and troublesome instances.
I’m simply floating in-between all of the extremes, and the earlier I make peace with that, the much less resistance I’ve in my physique and thoughts of how exhausting life has been.
I really like that a lot. And figuring out that brings it that rather more which means. I’m going to allow you to guys go however earlier than I do – Tour is coming! What are you most excited for?
Mandy: All the things! We’re really doing a day tomorrow the place we need to brainstorm all of the moments of the set and what we need to convey to life. This complete month can be placing the present collectively. We are able to’t watch for group and to sing these songs with folks – that’s all the time one of the best half. We simply need to convey a present to folks that’s pure escapism and enjoyable from the loopy world that we’re all dwelling in – so I’m wanting ahead to that.
Etienne: We’ve to determine a solution to play each single music in a roundabout way form or type and we solely have 70 minutes.
Mandy: I’m not wanting ahead to making an attempt to curate a setlist, I’ll say that. It’s exhausting! We’ve so many songs now. We discuss desirous to do a present sooner or later the place every night time is a unique album and we play it in its entirety and create totally different units for every report – sort of what we did for the reside stream for SUPERBLOOM, however in individual.
Signal me up! I am coming to that.
We simply need to convey a present to folks that’s pure escapism and enjoyable from the loopy world that we’re all dwelling in – so I’m wanting ahead to that.
We say our thanks’s and goodbyes, and the band is over complimentary of the help Atwood has proven them all through their profession. We clarify that they’ve made it extremely straightforward with the music they’ve introduced into the world.
If there’s one factor we all know in full certainty, it’s that MisterWives by no means disappoint of their reside present, and these new songs are begging to be sung collectively on the prime of all our lungs. Make sure you catch them at an upcoming live performance; the Don’t Look Down tour,their coheadlining tour with Bishop Briggs, begins September 8th and runs by means of mid-October!
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