As followers of heavy metallic, we’ve all needed to wrestle with the myriad of subgenres that are likely to crop up over time. Do I like cybergrind? What about melodic blackened demise metallic? Is that this band stoner doom? It’s all vital and never vital on the similar time.

But again within the 80s when the Bay Space thrash bands had been ripping shit up, there was a time when carrying the incorrect factor at a present would get you ridiculed or crushed up. Present as much as a thrash present carrying a Poison shirt whereas donning make-up and also you could be limping out of the venue, for instance. That anti-glam sentiment was harbored by the artists themselves, with Megadeth‘s Dave Mustaine famously calling glam metallic “homosexual L.A. music.”

Effectively, throughout a current interview with Heavy Consequence, it appears Mustaine’s walked again his stance on glam and hair metallic a bit. However solely after getting slightly within the weeds about genres and what they imply.

“The entire thing with glam and thrash on the time, metallic had so many various factions and splinters that had taken place within the very starting. We had been all heavy metallic. After which, you began listening to folks referred to as the facility metallic trio, after which there was, ‘Effectively, heavy metallic’s not ok since you’re thrash metallic.’ ‘What’s thrash metallic? I’m fucking taking part in everywhere. OK. We’re not thrash, we’re velocity metallic.’ ‘What the fuck is velocity metallic?’ ‘We’re sooner than thrash.’ ‘OK. Effectively, we ain’t thrash or velocity…we’re black metallic!’ ‘Effectively, what the fuck is black metallic?’ ‘Effectively, we speak concerning the darkish facet.’ ‘OK. Effectively, we ain’t black. We’re white metallic!’ ‘Effectively, what the fuck is white metallic?’ ‘Effectively we speak concerning the mild.’ ‘OK. So, what about, uh…demise metallic? What about all the opposite kinds of metallic? Outlaw metallic, grind metallic, punk metallic?’

“Y’know, it’s like metallic has grow to be a qualifying phrase simply to suggest a sure heaviness of music no matter what unique style it’s they arrive from. And I feel should you can have folks say bands like Blink-182 is like various metallic. Otherwise you see bands like Inexperienced Day, various metallic. Pearl Jam, various metallic. However are they? They’re pop bands. And what does pop imply? Is {that a} dangerous phrase? Effectively, some folks assume so. However what does it actually imply? Effectively, pop is brief for ‘widespread.’ So if Megadeth had a very profitable document with the inhabitants, it might be a well-liked document – like Countdown to Extinction was. Countdown is a triple platinum document and we’re most likely going to be seeing some certification for that within the close to future. And that was a well-liked album, which might make it a ‘pop album.’ Do you get what I’m saying? How bizarre all these phrases are.”

Elaborating on this explicit line of thought, Mustaine then went to check the band that’s most vital to his private life Megad — I imply, Metallica. Wanting again to his previous band’s early days (you already know, the one time he was truly within the band), he took what they had been doing and in contrast it to what Mötley Crüe was doing across the similar time.

“So, what do I feel between glam and between heavy metallic? Let’s boil it all the way down to its least widespread denominator. Let’s have a look at the primary two albums by Mötley Crüe and Metallica. You possibly can’t actually say that the primary Mötley Crüe document [Too Fast for Love] didn’t have some metallic tracks on it – as a result of ‘Take Me to the Prime’ or ‘Dwell Wire’ had the identical sort of actual quick proper hand selecting like James [Hetfield] and I had been doing. And when Vince [Neil] was first singing and James was first singing, their voice was very comparable within the registry the place it was at. They each sang actually excessive.

“However I feel that should you would have taken these two songs and had Metallica document them, they’d have been heavy as fuck. In all probability would have stayed fairly comparable as a result of we had been doing numerous copy songs. And so, once you take a band that’s dressing up, carrying excessive heels, carrying leather-based, carrying make-up, utilizing hairspray, belts and chains and large hoop earrings and jewellery and fingernails painted and stuff like that, and begin getting means into mascara, lipstick, basis, all that kinda shit, that’s any person’s impression of what a rock star is meant to appear to be. I promise you, should you go as much as a man who’s dressed up like that, who has that sort of a picture, and, and also you say, ‘What is that this picture that you just’re going for? What wouldn’t it be described as?’ They might say they’re a rock star. And I feel should you go to slightly child and also you mentioned, ‘What is that this?’ They might say, ‘You’re a rock star.’ Not that ‘You’re glam.’”

So does that make Metallica and Megadeth’s output “homosexual S.F. music?” Wait. Is thrash metallic secretly homosexual? What does all of it imply, Dave?! WHO IS PEPE SILVIA?!

It is best to completely take a look at the remainder of Heavy Consequence’s interview with Dave Mustaine.